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How many Freeview decoders do I need?

Wednesday, March 25th, 2009

We’ve had a few people lately asking if they can use one Freeview decoder for the whole house, or if they need one for each room.

It is possible to watch one decoder in multiple rooms, but there are a few conditions attached to this scenario. As with Sky’s decoders, if you only have one decoder, you can only watch one channel at a time even if your house is wired to watch that decoder in all the rooms. If you have a Freeview HD decoder, the cost of splitting the HD signal to other rooms tends to be quite prohibitive, though splitting the SD picture that is also available is no problem. Changing channels when the decoder is in another room generally requires more equipment to make it possible, again adding to the cost.

We would recommend that you have one decoder for each TV, otherwise you’re likely to have arguments about who gets to watch what for one, and as far as cost goes, it will probably end up much the same anyway. You can always have the cabling installed for any additional rooms at the time of your main install (usually saving on labour costs), and then add in the extra decoders at a later time. If you’re using a terrestrial Freeview HD system, you should still be able to get analogue TV pictures on those other outlets until such time as you install another decoder.

LNB L.O. Settings

Wednesday, February 18th, 2009

Something that often throws people when setting up a satellite decoder is what setting to use for the Local Oscillator (L.O.). Freeview approved decoders and some others use a system called ‘blind scan’ which eliminates the need to know any settings, you simply set the decoder to auto search and it will cycle through all the possible settings until it gets signal. For most satellite decoders though you need to set the L.O. manually.

For Sky TV dishes there are about 5 different models of LNB, utilising two different frequencies. Other dishes usually use one of the same frequencies, but there are also a couple of less common frequencies. The most foolproof way of finding out is to look at the sticker on the LNB, however this does mean gaining access to your dish, which may not be possible (or safe), or the sticker may not be readable.

Sharp single throat 11300 LNB

‘Sharp’ Sky Single LNB – 11300 L.O.

The older Sky dishes, and most other dishes use an L.O. frequency of 11300 MHz (11.3 GHz). There are a number of models that Sky have used over the years.

California Amps LNB

‘California Amplifiers’ Sky Single LNB – 11300 L.O.

One of these models in particular can prove troublesome – The oldest model, the ‘California Amplifier’ LNB (pictured above) doesn’t always allow use with 18V (horizontal polarity). The majority of these have been upgraded, but they still show up occasionally where the dish has not been used by Sky for a few years. They also suffer from UV damage with the face often become brittle, cracking, and allowing the ingress of water. If you have one of these LNBs and it is showing signs of deteriorating you are best to replace it.

Sky Dual 10750 LNB

‘Sharp’ Sky Dual LNB – 10750 L.O.

Newer Sky dishes have what is known as a Dual LNB with an L.O. frequency of 10750 MHz (10.75 GHz). These LNBs are recognisable by the oval shape of the face, and the twin throats on the body.

Sky Quad LNB

‘Sharp’ Sky Quad LNB – 10750 L.O.

Sky has released the Quad LNB pictured above which is pretty much identical to their Dual LNB, but with four cable outlets in the LNB itself, and slightly longer in the body. This is now the standard Sky LNB for all new installs, and older ones will be progressively replaced with these. Plastic caps cover the extra 3 cable outlets in the picture. It has a built in multi-switch with four outlets allowing the MySky HD decoders plus additional decoders to access either satellite simultaneously, unlike their Dual LNB which can only ‘see’ one satellite at a time. The naming they are using is a little confusing, the Dual LNB has dual throats to look at two satellites, but a single cable outlet. The Quad LNB still has dual throats, but is equipped with quad outputs.

Dual LNB, 10600 L.O.

Dual LNB (non-Sky) – 10600 L.O.

There are a few LNBs around that have an L.O. frequency of 10600 MHz (10.6 GHz), though these are relatively uncommon. Above is one such LNB. Most often than not though they will resemble a standard single LNB, and you won’t be able to tell until you check the sticker.

Setting the ‘LNB type’ in the decoder is usually hit and miss, we’ve found it often varies between different manufacturers and LNBs. Setting the LNB type to ‘normal’ usually works, but you may need to set it to ‘universal’ with some. For smaller dishes under 1.5m in size the LNB band will almost certainly be Ku. C band is only really used with large dishes for foreign channels.

Other 11300 LNBs

Top Left – Newer California Amplifiers LNB – 11300 L.O.
Top right – another ‘Sharp’ single LNB – 11300 L.O.
Bottom – ‘Hills’ dish – 11300 L.O.

The Hills dish above was used by Sky for a short time when they had problems with their supply of Winegard dishes. The LNB on these is white with a metal casing in contrast to the normal plastic ones. Later Hills models use a whitish coloured LNB very similar to the one top right in the picture above.

For non-Sky installed dishes there isn’t really any way of telling what the L.O. frequency will be without looking at the LNB sticker. There are dozens of different models from different manufacturer’s on the market, and installed on houses. More often than not a recently installed dish will have an LNB with a 10750 L.O as most commercial installers have followed Sky’s lead, and are trying to keep things simple by matching their setups to Sky’s.

Can I use a Sky dish to get Freeview?

Sunday, January 18th, 2009

99% of the time, the answer to this is yes, you can get the Freeview Satellite service from a Sky dish. Assuming the dish is still aligned correctly, and that the (intact) cabling goes to where you wish to have your Set-Top-Box (STB) it should be fine.

The 1% of the time when it might not work is where the dish is particularly old, and it has one of the early California Amps LNBs installed (The LNB is at the end of the arm where the cable terminates into). Many of these LNBs do not function at the polarity required by Freeview and will need to be replaced.

There are predominantly two different LNB Local Oscillator (LO) frequencies in use. The two used by Sky are 11300MHz for all older single LNBs (the whitish side of the LNB that faces the dish is round), and 10750MHz for the newer dual LNBs (oval shaped face). If you’re using a non-Freeview approved STB then you may need to change this setting in order to get it working. The Freeview approved decoders will detect this setting when first setup.

Do I need a High Definition TV to use Freeview HD?

Tuesday, January 13th, 2009

No, your older TV will still receive the pictures and audio for all channels from a Freeview HD decoder, but they will be in Standard Definition (SD). Chances are they’ll still look a lot sharper than the analogue pictures you’ve been used to, though they’ll pale in comparison to HD pictures. All Freeview HD decoders are equipped with connections that can be used with your older TVs, though there may be a very few that don’t have RF outputs (the type of socket used by your TV for the aerial), so if your TV is really old and doesn’t have any AV inputs (coloured RCA sockets), make sure the decoder has an RF output.

The Freeview approved decoders will output HD only from an HDMI socket, but other non-approved decoders may also output HD on component. Component is capable of HD pictures up to 1080i (which is as high as Freeview goes), the RCA sockets on the TV are often labelled Y, Pb and Pr, and are coloured red, green and blue. Audio is transmitted separately via two RCA sockets coloured red and white (or occasionally black). Note that not all component inputs on TVs are created equal, more often than not, they are not capable of HD pictures, but check the manual as you may have one of the ones that does.

When the time comes and you do upgrade your TV to an HD capable TV, it’s simply a case of plugging in an HDMI cable (usually supplied with the decoder), and you’ll be up and running in High Definition.